Q:   How much time did you spend behind bars?
A:   Jon: I've been in jail in California, Hawaii, New Jersey and Pennsylvania, but never for too long. I was in juvvie, too. If you added it all up, it was maybe a month or so cumulative. I went for doing all kinds of things — not just burglary.

I've also paid thousands of dollars in restitution, and I've done hundreds of hours of community service.

Matt: I have only stayed a couple of nights in jail, because when you're young, they want to give you another chance. It was never for longer than 24 hours. I had maybe three stays in all. However, I've had to pay back quite a lot of money in restitution.

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Q:   What was your first crime? How did you know what to do?
A:   Jon: My first job was stealing an I-Roc Z28 (a Camaro). I didn't even have a license yet. It was actually very exciting.

As for knowing what to do, you figure it out as you go. And when such pressure is involved, it adds to the thrill. I like to be challenged.

Matt: My first break-in was probably one of the bigger things I've done. It was with a couple of buddies, and it was for no reason other than my friend didn't like this person who lived in our little town. I went along for the ride, and we cleaned out this guy's place. It was a big house; we took a lot of stuff. At the time, you think it's the coolest thing. Snooping around is exciting. It's like going into another person's medicine cabinet; you feel sneaky and dirty, but it's fun.

The thing is, the danger and excitement is fine, but the aftermath is the worst feeling in the world. In this case, it was especially bad since the person was part of the community. My parents knew him. The feeling of being caught is so much worse than the feeling of excitement when you're doing it.

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